EPS 40. For the Mom Who Can't Shut Her Brain Off: How Self-Hypnosis Can Help

In today's episode of Overcaffeinated and Out of Effs I'm joined by Clinical Hypnotherapist, Michelle Walters, to talk about a powerful and often misunderstood tool that can help calm the mental chaos of so many burned out moms: self-hypnosis.

Michelle explains what what hypnosis really is and how it can help quiet the constant overthinking, stress and emotional overload that so many moms experience. We also talk about how it can help interrupt the subconscious patterns of common struggles of burned out moms including perfectionism, guilt and people-pleasing.

In this episode we talk about:

• What hypnosis actually is and why it's not what most people think

• Why burned out moms often feel like their brains won't shut off

• How subconscious patterns can keep women stuck in burnout

• The connection between stress, anxiety and the nervous system

• How self-hypnosis helps women reconnect with the part of themselves they've lost in motherhood

• Simple ways self-hypnosis can help calm your mind and reset your nervous system

• How personalized hypnosis recordings can support lasting change

  
  

Find Michelle at:

Website: www.michellewalters.net

Find Michelle's App: www.makemyhypno.com

[00:04] Christi Gmyr: Welcome to Overcaffeinated and Out of Effs, the podcast for burned out, career-minded moms who are ready to stop pretending everything's fine and feel like themselves again.

[00:15] I'm your host, Christi Gmyr, burnout coach for moms, licensed therapist and mom of two. And I'm here to help you reclaim your energy, your identity, and your peace of mind.

[00:25] Whether you're lying awake thinking about the 87 things you didn't get done or silently resenting the people you love most,

[00:32] This is your space to feel seen, supported, and not so alone.

[00:36] So grab your coffee, hot, cold or day old, and let's get into it.

[00:48] Hey everybody, it's Christi. Welcome to Overcaffeinated and Out of Effs.

[00:53] In today's episode, I'd like to welcome our guest, Michelle Walters. Positively passionate about creating creativity, growth and persuasion, Michelle shifted from a corporate career in digital marketing to working as a clinical hypnotherapist at the end of the pandemic after experiencing a massive wave of heartbreak when her dream life partner passed away.

[01:14] Since then, she's been working with individuals to let go of outdated, unhelpful and behavior patterns to grow and change, transforming clients to lead much happier and productive lives.

[01:26] In 2025, Michelle developed her first app, Make My Hypno,

[01:30] which makes personalized hypnosis recordings on demand, leveraging AI and Michelle's metaphorical scripts and soothing voice delivered in minutes and specific to the individual recordings from Make My Hypno have the edge on pre recorded, made for everyone audio recordings.

[01:47] So I've invited Michelle here today to talk a little bit about,

[01:53] you know, her knowledge and expertise regarding self hypnosis and specifically how it can be a helpful tool for all you burned out career minded moms.

[02:03] So, Michelle, thank you so much for being here today.

[02:07] Michelle Walters: I'm delighted to be here.

[02:08] Thank you for having me, Christi.

[02:09] Christi Gmyr: Yeah. Do you mind just by starting off by telling us a little bit about yourself and how you got into this work?

[02:15] Michelle Walters: Absolutely. So I grew up in California.

[02:19] I got an MBA, I went into digital marketing. I worked in a lot of corporate type environments and I was fortunate enough to get to be a mom.

[02:30] My husband and I had our son in 2003,

[02:35] so he's a young man now.

[02:37] And I really have always loved working with, teaching,

[02:45] working with people to kind of be creative and persuasive and that's really kind of what was at the center of the work that I've done for years in digital marketing.

[02:56] Along the way,

[02:57] I was introduced to a woman Who I sort of thought as my intuition teacher, but really she was a hypnotherapist and her name was Karen. Unfortunately, she's passed away,

[03:10] but she was a great teacher to me and really helped me through a lot of tough times.

[03:17] My husband had been born with cystic fibrosis and needed a lung transplant shortly after we got married. And he got that transplant and it put an extension cord on his life, which was great.

[03:30] Um, unfortunately he had a stroke and seizures and wound up being a very disabled person and living in a care facility for the last few years of his life,

[03:43] which really put me in the hot seat of needing to help with his care. I mean, fortunately I had helpers because he needed full time help.

[03:53] But I was working full time and raising a kid and doing all the things,

[03:58] and it was a very tough and stressful time. And Karen the hypnotherapist was really helpful at kind of getting me calmed down and getting me through it and helping me sort of develop a positive mindset.

[04:14] My husband Bruce passed in 2011,

[04:17] and a few years later, I met another wonderful man who was my just dream partner, just everything I could have ever wanted. And he was healthy.

[04:26] And I thought, oh, this is great. This is going to be wonderful. Everything's,

[04:31] everything's,

[04:33] you know, unicorns and rainbows now.

[04:36] Well, he came down with a terminal blood disease in,

[04:40] gosh, like 2019, 2018, 2019.

[04:44] And he passed away in 2021.

[04:48] So there again,

[04:50] I was in this difficult position of working sick partner child who was now a teenager and had his own teenager stuff going on.

[05:00] But again, a time of intense pressure.

[05:04] I was.

[05:07] The door opened, let's put it that way,

[05:09] to become a hypnotherapist. After my partner Scott passed,

[05:15] I decided that it was the end of the pandemic.

[05:17] It was time for a change. Everybody was doing something new. If I was going to do something new, this was the time. And I had already trained on the weekends to be a clinical hypnotherapist.

[05:27] And I thought, wow, this is a way and a time that I can step out of doing so much of this corporate digital marketing and transition into a little bit of small business marketing, which I still do today.

[05:42] But what I can focus on is my passion of helping other people to understand what is hypnosis. How can it help a person to,

[05:53] you know, kind of get on the right track, use her mindset in a positive way,

[05:59] and help people get over what they're looking to get over?

[06:02] And so that's a little bit of how I got here.

[06:06] Christi Gmyr: Oh, my gosh. Wow. My goodness. You've. You've really been through a lot. I'm so sorry to hear about your losses.

[06:13] I mean, it sounds like you have just been through so, so much. It sounds like it, it led you down this path, you know, to,

[06:21] you know, self discovery essentially, you know, to.

[06:25] To now use self help,[06:26] to use help hypnosis to help other people.

[06:29] That's. Oh, my gosh. My goodness.

[06:31] So you mentioned, you know, that one of the things that you do is you help people, you know, to understand what hypnotherapy really is, which is something that I'm hoping you can talk a little bit about here because I know for a lot of people, they're.[06:44] They hear this word hypnotherapy and, or hypnosis, and maybe they have an idea, maybe something sort of pops into their head of what that means and what that looks like.

[06:52] And I don't know, that may or

[06:53] Michelle Walters: may not be accurate.

[06:54] Christi Gmyr: So I'm wondering if you can just talk a little bit about and break down what hypnotherapy really is.

[07:01] Michelle Walters: So let's start with what is hypnosis and what is hypnotherapy?[07:05] So hypnosis is a state of mind.

[07:10] It is a. Literally.

[07:12] We have FMRI scans now that show that what it is, is it is a brain state where certain parts of your brain dial down and one other part of your brain dials up.

[07:23] That puts you in a place where you are kind of open to change in a more expansive way than you are when you are fully awake and in your. Your conscious waking mind.

[07:37] So three things happen when you're in a state of hypnosis. You become more suggestible, meaning more open to new ideas, like,

[07:46] sure, I'll go for a walk, even though I don't know you very well, kind of thing,

[07:49] or you also become more focused. So as opposed to during the day, when your attention is on a hundred things,

[07:59] in hypnosis, it feels really good because,

[08:02] like, focuses your attention. And so you become really just focused on one thing.[08:07] And that can feel really relaxing, especially to people who have a lot going on.[08:12] And then the third thing that happens is that you become more dissociate,[08:18] meaning you can imagine your body doing things, you can dream. You can access that imagination and that visualization power.

[08:25] And so when those three things come together,

[08:29] it creates sort of the perfect hotbed for change.

[08:33] The state of hypnosis is a natural state. We all go through states of hypnosis every day. And everyone goes through it as they fall asleep at night and they wake up in the morning.

[08:43] But it's that. It's that kind of edge between being awake and asleep.

[08:49] And in that moment,

[08:51] you can self induce that moment, or you can work with a professional hypnotherapist to help induce that moment,

[08:57] where you have this access to memories and ability to clear out old stuff and ability to uplift your confidence or creativity.

[09:09] And so it's a.

[09:11] It's kind of a superpower,

[09:13] and it's really helpful for folks who are,

[09:17] you know, maybe a little burned out or have their mind racing in so many directions. It's kind of a way of learning to uplift and control your thinking.

[09:29] Christi Gmyr: Okay, great, great. Well, and so then I'm also wondering, you know, what are. What are maybe some of the common misconceptions that are out there about. About this?

[09:40] Michelle Walters: So,

[09:42] and this gets into kind of the difference between hypnosis and hypnotherapy. So hypnosis is this brain state. Hypnotherapy is when you're using this brain state for change, for a therapeutic purpose.

[09:55] Um, one of the biggest misconceptions about hypnosis is people think that if they're in a hypnotic state,[10:02] they're gonna quack like chickens or reveal their big secrets or do something they wouldn't do.

[10:08] And here's the thing that doesn't happen in the movies.

[10:15] It's very fun in the movies. You know, I'll hypnotize you to quit your job, or I'll hypnotize you to do something bad.

[10:22] But the point of the fact is, is that when you're in a hypnotic state,

[10:27] you are working with the subconscious mind.

[10:30] And your subconscious mind,

[10:33] its entire job is to protect you.

[10:36] It will not allow you to do things that are going to harm you in any way. Your subconscious mind is controlling your blinking and your breathing and your heartbeat. And so if I tell someone in a state of hypnosis,

[10:51] you're going to quit your job, and that would be bad for them.

[10:54] They're going to be like,

[10:55] that's ridiculous. And they just pop out of hypnosis. Nothing bad happens. It's just the idea, the thought doesn't go anywhere.

[11:03] So, you know, I think one of the biggest misconceptions is that people will see a hypnotherapist and something bad will happen.

[11:11] That just doesn't. That's just not true.

[11:14] Christi Gmyr: So then how does.

[11:16]  How does this help with, you know,

[11:19] specifically with things like stress, like anxiety or you know, somebody who's emotionally overwhelmed, you know, why is this such a powerful tool for those people?[11:29] Michelle Walters: Well, it's a very powerful tool,

[11:32] I think largely because it reminds people that you do have control of your thoughts.[11:39] So many people get into a place where they,

[11:43] they have so many thoughts that they forget that they have control over them and that by taking control of their thoughts they can really prioritize. Right.

[11:57] Quit spending time on stupid things,

[12:00] not spin out of control or snap at the kids or whatever might happen when, when those thoughts aren't under control.

[12:08] And so when people learn how to self hypnotize,

[12:14] which is not that hard to learn,

[12:19] it's a great way of putting yourself into that quiet,

[12:24] open minded, suggestive state. Relaxing. It feels really good and it encourages people and shows them ways and how to,

[12:34] you know, cut off that trigger,

[12:36] to take a deep breath before you respond,

[12:40] to slow down and realize that, you know, no, you can't get all that stuff done today. That's okay. What is the 1, 2, 3 that you're gonna do?

[12:50] That kind of a thing.

[12:51] And I think in today's world where we have such a barrage of information and communication and news and good news and bad news, that this is such an important tool for people to put in their tool set.

[13:08] Christi Gmyr: Yeah, no, absolutely. And this is so interesting to me listening to you talk about this because really, you know, again, you sort of hear about these things in the movies. You sort of hear these terms every now and then.

[13:17] But it's really interesting to me to listen to just kind of like break it all down and explain it and you know, and so one of the things that I'm hearing you say, you know, because I'm, I'm also thinking about, of course, the moms who are listening and that are constantly or a lot of times feeling like their nervous system is in the state of overdrive.[13:35] And it sounds like self hypnosis can really be an effective tool for,

[13:41] for quieting that, so that they can really sort of focus and prioritize and you know, do these other things.

[13:47] Michelle Walters: Absolutely, absolutely. I do recommend, it is helpful to try and set aside maybe 10 minutes, 15 minutes. You, you don't need hours and hours to do this,[14:01] but a few minutes a day of focusing on, say a recording for self hypnosis can be extremely helpful. Like,

[14:11] it's just super helpful for so many people and it can help to sort of weed out all of those thoughts. One of the questions I often get is what's the difference between meditation and hypnosis and the biggest difference is that hypnosis is kind of like meditation, but it has a goal.

[14:31] Most people I know like goals.

[14:35] That's just kind of the way most of us have been raised.

[14:38] And so maybe your goal is to uplift your confidence. Maybe your goal is to relax and be more clear about your priorities.

[14:50] Maybe your goal is to quit snapping at people.

[14:55] But taking this time to relax and to access this special state of your brain in the intention and focus of working on that goal,

15:06] it's fabulous.

[15:08] Now, I will say that there's kind of,

[15:10] I think of it as kind of two levels of hypnosis. There are things where topics where a level of self hypnosis and maybe recordings and that kind of a thing is gonna be really helpful.

[15:26] And then there is a level where that's just not enough.

[15:30] Mm. People. People need to have a conversation. They need to have some one on one work.

[15:35] They need to maybe clear out some bad juju or childhood memories or that kind of a thing.

[15:43] And so I kind of,

[15:45] just for simplicity sake, sort of put people in two categories.

[15:49] I work with people individually, either in person or online on those higher level problems.

[15:57] The nice thing about hypnosis, or one thing that many of my clients really appreciate, is it tends to go a little deeper and a little harder and work faster than traditional psychotherapy does, certainly.

[16:10] And I see clients for that. There's information about me on my website and so forth on how to. To ask me about those kinds of things.

[16:18] And then there's another category that I sort of group as the just need a little help today kind of group.[16:26] And for that,

[16:28] a self hypnosis recording or a custom hypnosis recording made by my app can be extremely helpful.

[16:37] Christi Gmyr: Well, and so, and one of the things that you were talking about, you know, is how it can help you with a specific goal. So one of the things that I'm wondering about, you know,

[16:47] a lot of, a lot of people have, have multiple things they want to work on, multiple, you know, multiple goals that they're trying to work towards.

[16:54] And generally, I know it's recommended to sort of focus on one goal at a time, you know, and then move on to another goal afterwards.

[17:01] Is it the same with,

[17:03] with hypnotherapy to do, you know, just one at a time?

[17:07] Michelle Walters: Yeah, typically that's how I would approach it. Sometimes I find people, as they come to see me, we realize that they've got maybe four things on their list and two of them are kind of connected.

[17:19] And so we might be able to sort of do two because they're related, maybe,

[17:24] I don't know, say, confidence and weight loss or something like that might be connected. But if they're four completely different topics,

[17:32] we're gonna approach them one at a time.

[17:35] Um,

[17:36] the brain just likes it better that way and it's not so confusing. You know, I had a client who recently came to see me for some,

[17:44] some job issues. She had some trouble transitioning back into going back to work after being out for a period of time with a, with the surgery.

[17:54] And she also wanted some help on getting over a fear of airplanes.

[17:59] She used to be quite the traveler, and then sometime in the last few years,

[18:03] just can't pull it together to actually get on an airplane.

[18:08] Well, these are two great problems to solve with hypnotherapy,

[18:12] but they're very different.

[18:14] Yeah. And so we prioritized the job project and I helped her get back to, to work in a way that she's very happy with.

[18:24] And we're going to circle back and work on the fear of airplanes in a month or two because the, it would just confuse your subconscious mind. It would be like, well, what are we doing?

[18:34] Are we getting on a plane or going to work? And your subconscious mind is kind of like a child.

[18:40] I think that's a good way to think about it. And so if this would confuse a 7 year old that you're talking about both topics at the same time, it'll probably confuse your subconscious mind.

[18:49] So you want to, do you want to approach them sequentially and, and really

[18:53] Christi Gmyr: what you're talking about, you know, you're talking about these bigger goals that are maybe longer term, you know, that are going to, you know, take more time. I'm also curious to hear about,

[19:03] you know, self hypnosis and whether or not it's something that can be used specifically during a stressful moment, you know, during meltdowns, times of conflict, having a stressful workday, you know, something that it's more immediate and short term.[19:18] Michelle Walters: Absolutely.

[19:19] So many people find the process of what I would call dropping in, sort of getting into this brain state a little weird,

[19:27] a little uncomfortable,

[19:29] and it might take a few minutes to get into that state.

[19:35] The thing is, is that once you've, once you've learned how to do that,

[19:40] like a hypnotherapist can typically get herself into that state and maybe 30 to 60 seconds.

[19:47] And so you really can use this as. I'm going to take a three minute timeout,

[19:53] I'm going to take one minute to get into this space.

[19:56] I'M going to spend a minute and a half or two minutes in this space with a quick little release and be able to have,

[20:07] you know, let go.

[20:09] It's like, I don't know, it's kind of like pushing them.

[20:12] Pushing the button on the instapot that makes all the steam come out and all the pressure gets released very quickly.

[20:18] You can do that with hypnosis and self hypnosis. As you develop this skill set and learn how to drop in clear thoughts and move on quickly.

[20:30] Christi Gmyr: Well, okay. And you talk about developing a skill set, and you talk about, you know, the benefits of working with a trained professional. And you're also talking about doing it on your own at home.

[20:38] And so I'm curious, you know, for somebody who is maybe new to this and has never done it before, and, you know, they're sort of questioning if they are doing it right.[20:47] How. How can they know that? How can they tell?

[20:51] Michelle Walters: I get this question a lot, too. And my best answer is, you'll know you're doing it right as you do it more and more, and it starts to feel the same.

[21:00] You know, it's hard to explain what hypnosis is. Kind of like, it's hard to say what is sleep.

[21:06] You know, what sleep is, because you do it right,

[21:09] you. You get a sense of what this brain state is because you do it.

[21:15] And.

[21:15] And you can start to observe it more as you're going to bed at night. Notice that moment before you've lost consciousness. Usually your head is on your pillow and you're getting ready to go there.

[21:27] And there's kind of this moment, and for some people it's a moment,

[21:31] and for some people, it might

 be minutes.

[21:34] Um,

[21:34] and you learn to kind of feel that you're in this space where you are a little disconnected and you are in that space. And when you are in that space, you have a wonderful opportunity to both cure and program what's in your subconscious mind.[21:52] Christi Gmyr: Okay. Okay, great. Well, so then also I'm thinking about, you know, for people who are interested in trying this, you know, you had talked about doing it regularly. It sounds like that's a really important component to this.

[22:04] And I guess one thing I'm wondering about is what does that even mean? You talk about every day? Do you mean like a couple minutes every day? Does it have to be every day?

[22:12] Michelle Walters: What does that look like for self hypnosis?

[22:15] For many of my clients,

[22:17] if I had to sort of summarize what I think is kind of the most general recommendation,

[22:22] I would recommend listening to A recording, because that makes it so much easier. You're not trying to do this on your own. You just follow, follow the directions that somebody's telling you and that recording.

[22:35] Most recordings to be effective are going to be probably 15 to 30 minutes. Certainly you could listen to a longer one. But a lot of times people listening to recordings fall asleep.

[22:45] And people should know that if you fall asleep listening to your hypnosis recording, it is perfectly fine. It is okay because your subconscious is still listening even when you recognize that you're asleep.

[22:58] I recently had somebody try my app and I spoke to her about a week or two after she got her recording and she was like, well,

[23:06] I wanted the recording to help me exercise. It hasn't helped me exercise, but it is helping me go to sleep.

[23:12] And I said, okay, that's great. And then I talked to her two weeks later and she says, well, now I'm starting to exercise. It took a little time to kick in,

[23:19] but now it's working.

[23:21] So I usually recommend that people listen to their recordings every other night a few times a week so that your,

[23:31] your subconscious mind begins to sort of get in the habit. And like I said, it doesn't matter if you fall asleep, it still has just as good a chance of working because your subconscious mind is hearing that message.

[23:44] Christi Gmyr: Right. And so what about for the people you know, you said the ideal timeframe is maybe a recording of 15 to 30 minutes.

[23:51] For some people, I imagine that sounds just like a lot, right? Carving out maybe it's not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but for somebody who is so busy and already struggling to fit all these things into their day, 15 to 30 minutes maybe could seem like a lot.

[24:03] You had also mentioned that some practices could take, you know, five minutes or less.

[24:08] And so I'm curious, what are some self hypnosis practices or what are some recommendations you have that these moms could try today if they wanted to. That really isn't going to take more than a few minutes.

[24:22] Michelle Walters: So what I would. Well, first recognize that with the recordings you don't have to actually make any time in your day because you could put them on your nightstand and hit the play button before you fall asleep and literally be listening to your recording as you're going to sleep, so you don't have to actually take out time from your day.

[24:45] And I think this is part of the magic of the whole thing, is that you might not need to devote any conscious minutes during the day. You're just hitting a play button as you fall asleep at Night.

[24:55] That's pretty easy.

[24:56] If you are looking to practice some of this during the day.

[25:01] I would say that once you get this sense of what does it feel like to be in this brain state,

[25:07] know that you can induce this brain state in.

[25:10] I mean, honestly, there are people who could probably get there in 10 seconds, but a minute, let's say one minute.

[25:16] By learning how to relax and knowing what that relaxation feels like and recognizing that you're going to,

[25:24] I don't know, go outside, sit on a bench,

[25:27] close the door to your car, you're going to take,

[25:30] like,

[25:31] ignore people. Whatever it takes to drop into this space and then spend that time while you're in that space visualizing what it is you want to.

[25:43] What it is you want to focus on, or using metaphors to help you to visualize what it is you want to focus on.

[25:52] I love to use lots of metaphors in my work.

[25:56] I like to use butterflies because they're a great representation of change.

[26:01] Sometimes I use washing machines,

[26:03] which sounds really funny, but if you're trying to sort of imagine clearing something out, imagine putting it in the washing machine and knowing that when it comes out, it's going to be transformed.

[26:13] Christi Gmyr: Right.

[26:14] Michelle Walters: Um, so it's quite possible to find small ways to incorporate this in your day, every day.

[26:22] I do recommend just putting the recording on your nightstand as you fall asleep. It's an easy way to propel change without dedicating time. And I know that many of your listeners have no time.

[26:35] Christi Gmyr: Well, yeah, and I, and I love that response that you gave. Right. Because so many of them,

[26:40] they really don't have time. And this is one of the reasons that I'm always asking this question about what can they do in just, you know, a few minutes. But to your point,[26:47] everybody's going to sleep at some point, you know, even if they're not getting to bed as early as they would like to, everybody is going to sleep. And the fact that they, they really don't have to plan any extra time in their day, just hitting the play button while they're doing something that they were going to do anyways,

[27:02] you know, I, that seems very, very doable. So I love that.

[27:05] Michelle Walters: It's a great way to solve what I think of as kind of those lower degree problems.

[27:11] And frankly, you have probably many listeners whose, whose issues are not about childhood trauma. They're not about whatever. They're just about this moment in their lives and figuring out how to cope and get better, you know, that kind of a thing.

[27:25] Christi Gmyr: Yeah.

[27:25] Michelle Walters: If you have bigger issues you might need a bigger solution,[27:29] but for,

[27:30] for a lot of solutions, what do you need? You need a little support, a little mindset,[27:36] shift.

[27:37] Maybe not a complete rewrite, but a shift.

[27:40] And this is a great way to make that happen easily, quickly and without much effort.

[27:46] Christi Gmyr: Yeah, no, absolutely.

[27:48] Well, and one of the things, you know, that you've sort of been referencing throughout our conversation, you know, we talked about a little bit at the beginning, is this app that you've created.

[27:56] Created, Right. And so I'm wondering if you can tell us a little bit more about that specifically. So what is it? What does it do and how can it help support these burned out working moms who are listening?

[28:07] Michelle Walters: Absolutely.

[28:08] So I'm a hypnotherapist and I also worked in digital marketing for years and times have changed. We have new tools, new things available to us.

[28:18] And I thought earlier this year, I wonder if I could find a new way to help people make better,

[28:24] better self hypnosis recordings.

[28:26] Because of course you can find them on YouTube. You can find them pre recorded things on apps like Calm or Inside Timer. There's tons and tons of resources out there, but what there isn't is something made just for you.

[28:41] So what I developed was a way to take just four little pieces of information, like your name, what it's for,

[28:49] kind of your happy place, like where you want to imagine yourself being, and if you've got any little details, like I want to feel better about going to work, or my favorite affirmation is let go and let God, whatever.

[29:02] And it uses those little pieces of information and my directions and my voice and creates a custom hypnosis recording.

[29:11] And so these are getting great responses from people.

[29:16] Like I said, I had the one client who said first it just helped her sleep and then later it helped her exercise.

[29:21] I have another review from someone who was like, I was really terrified about giving a big presentation at work and this recording made me feel I could do it. And I delivered it and did a great job and closed a new client.

[29:35] And I have,

[29:36] I have many, many positive reviews. I have one gal who was like, it made me cry.[29:42] I was like, wow, I'm pretty impressed. This,

[29:45] this automated recording could,

[29:49] could be so emotionally impactful.

[29:53] And so this app is really easy to use and it allows somebody to request it and pay and receive it to your email inbox as an MP3 that you get to own forever.

[30:09] Like, you don't have to go back to the app all the time. You can actually download it and just listen to it whenever you want.

[30:15] And they're much more potent and powerful than something that you just get off the Internet.

[30:22] Christi Gmyr: Well, and so for some. Oh, I'm sorry, did I cut you off?

[30:24] Michelle Walters: No, no, no, no. I just, it's,

[30:27] you know, it's something really kind of special to have the recording that would have your name in it, for example,

[30:33] and when it has your name and it's your favorite place and it's about what you want it to be,

[30:40] is it as good as working with me individually?

[30:43] No,[30:44] not quite.

[30:46] But it's something that you could get today.

[30:50] Like, you don't have to wait to have a call with me or pay individual fees or any

 of that kind of thing.

[30:56] Christi Gmyr: Well, and that's one of the things I'm curious about is the timeline. So you mentioned that you could theoretically get one of these recordings today.

[31:05] Did you mention that you pay for each one individually, is that right?

[31:08] Michelle Walters: I do pay for them individually.

[31:10] I do have a bundle. If you know beforehand that you want to buy several,

[31:15] you can save a little money buying a bundle.

[31:18] But you answer these questions, you create a little account, verify your email and pay, and the email arrives about five minutes later with your recording.

[31:27] Christi Gmyr: Great.

[31:27] Michelle Walters: So it's, it's not, it's about as close to insta as you could.

[31:32] Christi Gmyr: Yeah.

[31:33] Ask for. So, yeah. Well, and then I'm also curious and obviously I imagine that this is going to be individualized to an extent with the person and what it is that they are hoping to work on.

[31:44] So, you know, for people who aren't necessarily wanting to rewrite their story, you know, working through trauma and things like that,

[31:52] what would be a realistic timeframe that they might be able to expect to see some sort of noticeable change if they were to start using these regularly?

[32:02] Michelle Walters: I have had reports of them working within a couple days,

[32:07] and I've had other reports of them working within a couple weeks.

[32:11] So it's, you know, I, I can't say you're going to experience change tomorrow.

[32:17] You might,

[32:19] but it might take a couple of weeks.

[32:21] Every person is different.

[32:23] Every situation is a little bit different.

[32:26] The good thing to know about hypnosis is your subconscious mind is only going to accept what you can believe that it's going to accept.

[32:35] And that repetition is really helpful. And that's why I do recommend people listen to the recording every day or every other day.

[32:44] It sends a message to your subconscious, hey, this is what we're working on. This is the change we want to make.

[32:51] Christi Gmyr: Okay. Okay.

[32:52] Michelle Walters: So I, I, you know, it might be tomorrow, it might be next week.[32:57] And I can't guarantee this will,

[33:00] this will absolutely work for everybody.

[33:03] But I know based upon the responses that I'm seeing that it's very effective.

[33:08] Christi Gmyr: Yeah. And I, and again, I realize, you know, everybody's different and you can't pinpoint a specific time period. But I think it's also helpful for people just to kind of manage expectations.

[33:17] You know, I know a lot of times people are really hoping to,

[33:21] you know, have solutions immediately. Right. Which is not always super realistic.[33:27] Michelle Walters: Well, it kind of depends, you know, your audience. Burned out moms. There's a lot going on.

[33:32] Christi Gmyr: Yeah.

[33:33] Michelle Walters: And I know from my own experience,

[33:35] like some of those situations change sort of fast and some of them don't change very fast at all.

[33:42] And all this can do, like therapy or coaching or anything is, is help you.

[33:48] It doesn't change the fact your kid still needs you to make his lunch or your husband forgot to pick up the groceries. Like, it doesn't change any of that.

[33:58] Christi Gmyr: Yeah.

[33:58] Michelle Walters: But what it can do is be supportive to you as an individual,[34:04] to your communication style, to your fuse. This is something I've heard from burned out moms. My problem is my fuse.

[34:14] And why not try?

[34:16] Why not try?

[34:17] Christi Gmyr: Absolutely. Well, so what would you say is maybe just one message that you really hope that every mom takes away from your work with self hypnosis?[34:30] Michelle Walters: I think the most important thing is to recognize that you have power over your thoughts.

[34:37] And while you may not have power over,

[34:41] you know, if Junior doesn't want to behave today or somebody isn't being nice to you, you do have power over your thoughts.

[34:52] And by taking control of your own thoughts and setting your own expectations for how you want to show up in the world is,

[35:01] is essential to getting through those rough and tumble times.

[35:05] And the other thing as a, as a mom now of a young adult is it always changes.[35:11] Life is always changing. You know, I remember the days when my son was too little and I got to pick out his Halloween costume. I mean, those were great days.

[35:20] I loved being able to choose his Halloween costume. And then he got to an age where that wasn't going to fly anymore. He was going to choose his Halloween costume.[35:28] And then I got to an age where he didn't even want a Halloween costume.

[35:32] And I think,

[35:34] you know, it's important to treasure those moments as they're coming,

[35:37] but also to try and find the right mindset tools that are going to help you to navigate these up and down times.

[35:45] Christi Gmyr: Yeah, no, absolutely. And I love that so much. I mean, myself I'm a therapist and a coach and I do a ton of mindset work. I'm such a huge believer in exactly what you're saying.

[35:55] It sounds like you have a different approach, you have a different way of doing it, which I love, you know, because different things are going to work for different people.[36:03] But I,

[36:04] at the core, you know, it's that same idea and I think that that is just so wonderful. I agree 100%.

[36:10] So where, you know, you, you talked about your app, you know, you talked about your work, you know, working with clients. Where can listeners go to learn more about all of that, to learn more about you and the work that you do?

[36:22] Michelle Walters: So my website, my website that describes my hypnosis work, my speaking, all that kind of stuff is my name. It's michellewalters.net M I c h e l l e 2 l's and Michelle, last name Walters.

[36:37] walters.net and on that site you'll see lots of information about me, including a button to schedule a call with me, if that would be appropriate.

[36:47] My website that has the app on it kind of runs in its own little self running system.[36:54] It is called makemyhypno.com makemyhypno.com.

[37:03] Christi Gmyr: I'm going to check it out myself.

[37:04] I think that this all sounds so wonderful.

[37:07] So I will include all of that in the show Notes, of course, for anybody who does want to learn more about you, about the work that you do, they're curious about exploring hypnosis, self hypnosis.

[37:19] So before we wrap up for today, you know, if you could leave the listeners with one final piece of advice.

[37:24] Any other messages? Just one final thought. What would it be?

[37:29] Michelle Walters: Know yourself and be true to yourself.

[37:33] Christi Gmyr: Okay,

[37:35] thank you.

[37:36] Thank you so much again for that and also again, just for being here. I know that I imagine that you are also very busy and as always, for the moms who are listening, you know, if any of this resonates, if you found this to be helpful, please, please,

[37:51] you know,

[37:52] look up Michelle, you know, look up the work that she does, and please share this podcast with any other moms that maybe could use some additional support,

[38:00] because we're all in this together.

[38:03] Michelle Walters: Thank you, Coach Christi.